Board/Minutes/2020-10-S2S/Make progress on attribution guidelines and enforcement

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Notes by participants. Might be enriched.

Participants

Board members

  • Allan Mustard (Chairperson)
  • Guillaume Rischard (Treasurer)
  • Joost Schouppe (Secretary)
  • Mikel Maron
  • Paul Norman
  • Rory McCann
  • Tobias Knerr

Biographies.

Resources

  • Legal counsel from OSMF pro-bono lawyer.

Notes

Discussion on email from OSMF pro-bono lawyer on draft guidelines.

  • Email requested by LWG. Not shared yet, waiting for signed non-disclosure agreement (NDA) (signed so far by Simon and Kathleen, waiting for Michael, Jim).

On board and LWG versions

  • Collapse attribution issue is the key difference between the board and the LWG versions.
    • Changes: 1 attribution shown to people who see but don't interact, 2 consequential changes and 3 wording clean-up.

Response

  • Facebook feeling that LWG has been overridden.
  • Board version took LWG by surprise.

Other points mentioned

  • LWG has requested a red-lined version of their draft. Diff provided by board.
  • Communication issues.
  • Simon Poole (LWG chair) is retiring.
  • Guillaume has asked Dermot McNally (past LWG member) whether he'd be interested to rejoin.

Suggestions

  • Board do a circular that the LWG version is not acceptable.
    • LWG is aware.
  • Meeting with LWG.
  • Perhaps contact other lawyers in the future.

On standard tile license

  • New LWG written tile license mentions copyright also to OSMF.
  • Attribution more complicated and contradicts image and what existing attributors are doing.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright
"If you are using these tiles please use the following attribution: “Base map and data from OpenStreetMap and OpenStreetMap Foundation”. "

[With the new phrasing] people who have attributed in past are not in compliance.

Suggestion: Email LWG.

Decisions

  • Get back to LWG and ask for the remaining NDAs to share OSMF pro-bono lawyer's feedback.
  • Communicate to LWG that the board will not provide a red-lined version.

Action items

  • Allan to remind LWG about waiting for the signed NDAs to share OSMF pro-bono lawyer's feedback.
  • Paul to put explanation of the board attribution changes in writing and explain that the board won't provide a red-lined version.
  • Paul to collaborate with Tobias on emailing LWG regarding the tile license attribution and rewrite specific part of copyright statement.
  • Rory to email OSMF pro-bono lawyer.
  • Tobias to collaborate with Paul on emailing LWG regarding the tile licence attribution and rewrite specific part of copyright statement.
  • Dorothea to schedule video meeting with LWG during 2nd week of October.