Difference between revisions of "CWG meeting 2012-05-07"
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- Henk Hoff
- Dermot McNally
- Richard Weait
(04:00:07 PM) rweait1: Hello (04:00:34 PM) toffehoff: Hello! (04:01:08 PM) rweait1: Ping RichardF (04:01:26 PM) toffehoff: Harry traveling? (04:01:51 PM) rweait1: Could be, I suppose. (04:02:11 PM) toffehoff: Are we expecting someone else? (04:02:15 PM) rweait1: Well, shall we start, and see if anybody else joins us? (04:02:26 PM) toffehoff: cool. (04:02:33 PM) rweait1: I think JonathanB said he would be away, didn't he? (04:02:53 PM) toffehoff: I think I was absent last week. (04:03:23 PM) rweait1: Any topics for today? (04:03:38 PM) toffehoff: Ah, harry is celebrating TomH birthday. (04:03:52 PM) toffehoff: And Jonathan should be able to make it. (04:03:56 PM) rweait1: from old matters we have Memorial fund, redaction update... (04:04:01 PM) rweait1: anything else? (04:04:38 PM) toffehoff: Anything we want to bring to attention in MT? (04:04:57 PM) toffehoff: Except for the usual " we're here to help with comms" (04:05:11 PM) rweait1: Yeah. :-) (04:05:16 PM) rweait1: That's all I'm aware of (04:05:21 PM) rweait1: anything from MT or other WGs? (04:05:42 PM) toffehoff: This thursday is a MT planned. (04:06:07 PM) toffehoff: So next week I (or Harry) can give an update. (04:06:25 PM) rweait1: Cool.. (04:06:33 PM) toffehoff: Still most important item is the redaction process.... (04:06:53 PM) rweait1: LWG is also taking an interest in the redaction updates. (04:06:57 PM) rweait1: ping mackerski? (04:07:06 PM) mackerski: pong (04:07:17 PM) ***mackerski reads back (04:07:18 PM) rweait1: Hello. Just about to talk about the redaction updates (04:07:28 PM) mackerski: Ah, well I know a bit more this time... (04:07:29 PM) rweait1: "How're things?" (04:07:33 PM) mackerski: Have been hacking on the code (04:07:49 PM) mackerski: Made a few tests pass (04:08:05 PM) rweait1: nice. (04:08:18 PM) mackerski: A few simple cases remain to do with the "significant changes" issue (04:08:22 PM) rweait1: Are we happy with the "wednesday updates" ? (04:08:30 PM) mackerski: All related to abbreviations (04:08:51 PM) mackerski: I know why the remaining cases are failing and want to catch Matt to discuss preferred ways to fix it (04:09:00 PM) mackerski: That will bring it down to, I think, 13 failing cases (04:09:11 PM) mackerski: All but one I think relate to relations (04:09:16 PM) rweait1: Cool. (04:09:20 PM) mackerski: I'm scared to try and do anything with those (04:09:55 PM) mackerski: But I think it would be good to have folk consider the impact of those failures and see if we prefer to fix them or accept a less-good approach (04:10:24 PM) rweait1: Who would you want to discuss that with? (04:10:39 PM) mackerski: LWG and selected outreach, I reckon (04:10:40 PM) toffehoff: If abbreviations are a problem, is that anything we can later fix with a bot? (04:10:43 PM) mackerski: = rebuild group (04:10:51 PM) rweait1: Amesome. (04:10:51 PM) mackerski: The abbreviations won't be a problem (04:10:55 PM) rweait1: awesome. (04:10:56 PM) mackerski: I think I can fix those myself (04:11:06 PM) rweait1: anything you need from CWG? (04:11:08 PM) mackerski: It's the relations I'm more interested in (04:11:13 PM) mackerski: Probably not (04:11:14 PM) toffehoff: great. (04:11:33 PM) mackerski: An OT thing - I see a few of us are already signed up for Where camp Berlin (04:11:43 PM) rweait1: shall I ask write a draft and send it to you and Matt for Wednesday? (04:11:44 PM) mackerski: Might be a chance for a face to face if others are interested (04:11:53 PM) mackerski: rweait1: Sounds good (04:12:03 PM) rweait1: When is Berlin? (04:12:05 PM) mackerski: Suggest you check out the code and run it locally... (04:12:11 PM) mackerski: That'll show you what's failing (04:12:14 PM) mackerski: 22nd June (04:12:20 PM) rweait1: okay. (04:12:32 PM) toffehoff: face2face in berlin sounds ok to me. (04:12:42 PM) mackerski: There is one case under "needs-clarification"... (04:12:49 PM) mackerski: Let's take that to LWG tomorrow. (04:13:05 PM) mackerski: If we can get a consensus on whether the test should pass as defined I can probably fix it too (04:13:10 PM) rweait1: Please email it tonight, so everybody can have a think about it? (04:13:34 PM) mackerski: Yeah, good point (04:13:38 PM) mackerski: I'll get that out now (04:13:52 PM) rweait1: Super. Thank you, mackerski! (04:13:56 PM) toffehoff: +1 (04:13:58 PM) mackerski: Sure (04:14:14 PM) ***mackerski is now on phone (04:14:18 PM) rweait1: toffehoff: now that mackerski has set CWG on the right path, are we done? ;-) (04:14:44 PM) toffehoff: You would almost say we are.... (04:15:00 PM) toffehoff: Anything on the memorial? (04:15:16 PM) rweait1: not much in the way of feedback. (04:15:40 PM) rweait1: i think the anouncement got lost in the Apple thing that was announced an hour or two before it. (04:15:47 PM) toffehoff: I did however get a mail from a father of a dutch mapper who passed away a couple of years ago. (04:16:03 PM) rweait1: Oh dear. I hope you offered condolences? (04:16:11 PM) toffehoff: I did already in the past. (04:16:47 PM) toffehoff: Something with why does Ulf get so much attention and not my son. Since he was also a very enthousiastic mapper. (04:17:11 PM) rweait1: :( I'm so sad for him. (04:17:23 PM) rweait1: I see the memorial as for all deceased mappers. (04:17:30 PM) toffehoff: It took me a while to write a response. (04:17:43 PM) rweait1: For ulf especially as he was a more-public figure, and was a member of the board. (04:18:00 PM) rweait1: but I do see the memorial as for all past mappers. (04:18:34 PM) toffehoff: Well, we're always going to step on someones feet. (04:18:46 PM) rweait1: I certainly had the names of several other mappers in mind as I was drafting and posting the information. (04:20:01 PM) toffehoff: I've tried to explain that with Ulf being a more-public figure and the way his life ended triggered this memorial. (04:20:48 PM) toffehoff: And there will, unfortenately, be many other mappers who will follow in an tragic early death. (04:21:07 PM) rweait1: :( Not many, I hope. (04:21:48 PM) toffehoff: If we're working with more than half a million people..... (04:21:54 PM) rweait1: Do you want CWG to write the the father? (04:22:08 PM) toffehoff: And many is a subjective value. (04:22:45 PM) toffehoff: You were already thinking of a few. I know a couple.... (04:23:07 PM) toffehoff: to me 5 is already many .... (04:23:07 PM) rweait1: this is a bit depressing. Anything we should be acting on? (04:23:17 PM) toffehoff: Sure. (04:23:29 PM) toffehoff: I don't think so. (04:23:44 PM) rweait1: Okay. Shall we wrap it up until next week then? (04:23:53 PM) toffehoff: I'll be starting with a new job on thursday. (04:24:00 PM) rweait1: Congratulations! (04:24:06 PM) toffehoff: Might have a bit less time the coming weeks. (04:24:07 PM) toffehoff: Thanks. (04:24:19 PM) rweait1: Okay, keep us posted via the list.