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Date and time: [https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=OSMF+board+meeting+-++Thursday%2C+30+July+2020&iso=20200730T17&p1=136&ah=1 Thursday, 30th of July 2020 at 17:00 London time] - [https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=136&iso=20200730T17&msg=OSMF%20board%20meeting%20-%20%20Thursday,%2030%20July%202020 Countdown]
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'''Accepted''' on 2020-07-11 with '''6 votes in favour''': Paul Norman, Guillaume Rischard, Allan Mustard, Joost Schouppe, Tobias Knerr, Mikel Maron.<br>
'''1 did not vote''': Rory McCann.
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'''Accepted''' on 2020-07-17 with '''6 votes in favour''': Paul Norman, Joost Schouppe, Mikel Maron, Rory McCann, Allan Mustard, Tobias Knerr. <br>
'''1 abstained''': Guillaume Rischard.
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'''Accepted''' on 2020-07-26 with '''6 votes in favour''': Joost Schouppe, Mikel Maron, Tobias Knerr, Guillaume Rischard, Allan Mustard, Rory McCann. <br>
'''1 did not vote''': Paul Norman
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'''Accepted''' on 2020-07-28 with '''6 votes in favour''': Tobias Knerr, Joost Schouppe, Mikel Maron, Guillaume Rischard, Allan Mustard, Rory McCann. <br>
'''1 did not vote''': Paul Norman
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<font color="blue"> See [[Board/Action_Items]]. </font>
 
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== Action items updates ==
<span style="font-size:88%"> '''Topics''': [[#Adopting_the_hiring_framework| Hiring framework]] | [[#Proposal_to_hire_a_senior_site_reliability_engineer| SRE hiring]] | [[#Funding_of_projects_used_in_core_infrastructure_.28Nominatim.2C_osm2pgsql.2C_Potlatch.2C_iD.29| Funding core infra. projects]] | [[#Mostly_inactive_state_of_Communication_Working_Group| CWG]] | [[#Advisory_Board_split| AB split]] | [[#Trademark_subcommittee| TM subcommittee]] | [[#Community_survey_before_the_end_of_the_year| Survey]] | [[#Argentina_feedback_discussion| Argentina LC appl.]] | [[#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| AB update]] | '''AOB''': [[#DeepL| DeepL]] | '''Guests''': [[#Comment_on_Splitting_the_Advisory_Board| Comment on AB split]] | [[#Thanks| Thanks]]</span>
 
== Monthly Local Chapter presentation - OpenStreetMap France ==
 
''Topic carried over from the June public board meeting but the presentation did not take place, as the OpenStreetMap France representative was unavailable.''
 
{| style="color: grey; background-color: #d3d3d3;
<span style="font-size:88%"> '''Topics''': [[#Adopting_the_hiring_framework| Hiring framework]] | [[#Proposal_to_hire_a_senior_site_reliability_engineer| SRE hiring]] | [[#Funding_of_projects_used_in_core_infrastructure_.28Nominatim.2C_osm2pgsql.2C_Potlatch.2C_iD.29| Funding core infra. projects]] | [[#Mostly_inactive_state_of_Communication_Working_Group| CWG]] | [[#Advisory_Board_split| AB split]] | [[#Trademark_subcommittee| TM subcommittee]] | [[#Community_survey_before_the_end_of_the_year| Survey]] | [[#Argentina_feedback_discussion| Argentina LC appl.]] | [[#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| AB update]] | '''AOB''': [[#DeepL| DeepL]] | '''Guests''': [[#Comment_on_Splitting_the_Advisory_Board| Comment on AB split]] | [[#Thanks| Thanks]]</span>
 
== Adopting the hiring framework ==
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[https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Hiring_Framework&type=revision&diff=7393&oldid=7348 Changes after community consultation]
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=== Voting ===
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'''Motion to adopt the [[Hiring_Framework|hiring framework]].'''
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| Unanimously '''accepted''' with 6 votes in favour ''(1 board member was absent)''.
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{| style="color: grey; background-color: #d3d3d3;
<span style="font-size:88%"> '''Topics''': [[#Adopting_the_hiring_framework| Hiring framework]] | [[#Proposal_to_hire_a_senior_site_reliability_engineer| SRE hiring]] | [[#Funding_of_projects_used_in_core_infrastructure_.28Nominatim.2C_osm2pgsql.2C_Potlatch.2C_iD.29| Funding core infra. projects]] | [[#Mostly_inactive_state_of_Communication_Working_Group| CWG]] | [[#Advisory_Board_split| AB split]] | [[#Trademark_subcommittee| TM subcommittee]] | [[#Community_survey_before_the_end_of_the_year| Survey]] | [[#Argentina_feedback_discussion| Argentina LC appl.]] | [[#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| AB update]] | '''AOB''': [[#DeepL| DeepL]] | '''Guests''': [[#Comment_on_Splitting_the_Advisory_Board| Comment on AB split]] | [[#Thanks| Thanks]]</span>
 
== Proposal to hire a senior site reliability engineer ==
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* Most feedback received from membership was about clarifications.
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* The current draft was written with the sysadmins.
* Adopting the current draft will mean that we will look for someone for that job and there will be a separate decision for the candidate.
* If we end up with someone in the UK, our accountant says that the employment procedure will be easy.
 
<u>Suggestions</u>:
== Funding of projects used in core infrastructure (Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch, iD) ==
* Guillaume volunteered to be the board liaison.
<font color="blue"> Draft notes. </font>
* Establishing an HR committee, so we have a consistent way of working with people who work for OSMF.
 
=== Voting ===
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'''Motion to adopt the current draft.'''
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| '''Accepted''' - no objections.
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{| style="color: grey; background-color: #d3d3d3;
<span style="font-size:88%"> '''Topics''': [[#Adopting_the_hiring_framework| Hiring framework]] | [[#Proposal_to_hire_a_senior_site_reliability_engineer| SRE hiring]] | [[#Funding_of_projects_used_in_core_infrastructure_.28Nominatim.2C_osm2pgsql.2C_Potlatch.2C_iD.29| Funding core infra. projects]] | [[#Mostly_inactive_state_of_Communication_Working_Group| CWG]] | [[#Advisory_Board_split| AB split]] | [[#Trademark_subcommittee| TM subcommittee]] | [[#Community_survey_before_the_end_of_the_year| Survey]] | [[#Argentina_feedback_discussion| Argentina LC appl.]] | [[#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| AB update]] | '''AOB''': [[#DeepL| DeepL]] | '''Guests''': [[#Comment_on_Splitting_the_Advisory_Board| Comment on AB split]] | [[#Thanks| Thanks]]</span>
 
== Funding of projects used in core infrastructure (Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch, iD) ==
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The proposals for [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osm2pgsql osm2pgsql] and [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch_2 Potlatch] were originally submitted as [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Microgrants Microgrant] 2020 proposals ''([https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Microgrants/Microgrants_2020/Proposal/Potlatch_2_for_desktop Potlatch 2 proposal], [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Microgrants/Microgrants_2020/Proposal/Osm2pgsql_development osm2pgsql proposal])'' but were not selected. Suggestion to fund these projects directly, together with [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim Nominatim] and [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ID iD].
 
'''Potlatch 2 - [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Microgrants/Microgrants_2020/Proposal/Potlatch_2_for_desktop Proposal]'''
* Still used by significant number of users: ~ 1.4% of users (and 1.2% of all edits).
* Flash will be disabled in browsers in December.
* Suggestion to port to desktop.
''> As long we are before December, it is fine.''
 
==== Voting ====
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'''Motion to move the proposals for Nominatim, osm2pgsql and Potlatch to community consultation.'''
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| '''Accepted''', no objections.''
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=== iD ===
 
* Similarly, we want to do a community consultation first.
* Deferred to August board meeting.
'' ''
{| style="color: grey; background-color: #d3d3d3;
<span style="font-size:88%"> '''Topics''': [[#Adopting_the_hiring_framework| Hiring framework]] | [[#Proposal_to_hire_a_senior_site_reliability_engineer| SRE hiring]] | [[#Funding_of_projects_used_in_core_infrastructure_.28Nominatim.2C_osm2pgsql.2C_Potlatch.2C_iD.29| Funding core infra. projects]] | [[#Mostly_inactive_state_of_Communication_Working_Group| CWG]] | [[#Advisory_Board_split| AB split]] | [[#Trademark_subcommittee| TM subcommittee]] | [[#Community_survey_before_the_end_of_the_year| Survey]] | [[#Argentina_feedback_discussion| Argentina LC appl.]] | [[#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| AB update]] | '''AOB''': [[#DeepL| DeepL]] | '''Guests''': [[#Comment_on_Splitting_the_Advisory_Board| Comment on AB split]] | [[#Thanks| Thanks]]</span>
 
== Mostly inactive state of CWGCommunication Working Group ==
''Carried over from the July mid-month meeting. Suggested by Paul.''
 
[[Communication_Working_Group/Overview_2020_Jan_to_Aug| Overview of Communication Working Group activity: January to July 2020]]
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Points mentioned during discussion
* Reinvest energy on communications about the story of OpenStreetMap and what is happening around the world.
* Joining the [[Communication_Working_Group|Communication Working Group]] (CWG) might appeal to a lot of people if framed right.
* [https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2020/07/22/providing-data-to-openstreetmap-a-new-guide-for-data-owners/ Richard Fairhurst's post] mentioned.
 
=== Decision===
Addition of topic to the agenda of mid-month chat, when Paul ''(who suggested the topic)'' will be present.
 
{| style="color: grey; background-color: #d3d3d3;
<span style="font-size:88%"> '''Topics''': [[#Adopting_the_hiring_framework| Hiring framework]] | [[#Proposal_to_hire_a_senior_site_reliability_engineer| SRE hiring]] | [[#Funding_of_projects_used_in_core_infrastructure_.28Nominatim.2C_osm2pgsql.2C_Potlatch.2C_iD.29| Funding core infra. projects]] | [[#Mostly_inactive_state_of_Communication_Working_Group| CWG]] | [[#Advisory_Board_split| AB split]] | [[#Trademark_subcommittee| TM subcommittee]] | [[#Community_survey_before_the_end_of_the_year| Survey]] | [[#Argentina_feedback_discussion| Argentina LC appl.]] | [[#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| AB update]] | '''AOB''': [[#DeepL| DeepL]] | '''Guests''': [[#Comment_on_Splitting_the_Advisory_Board| Comment on AB split]] | [[#Thanks| Thanks]]</span>
 
== Advisory Board split ==
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<u>Points mentioned during discussion</u>
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* Need feedback from community and the [[Advisory_Board| Advisory Board]].
* Have a broader set of corporate members?
 
On having representatives from smaller organisations as well:
* Suggestion to add this on the community consultation.
* Ask Gold Corporate Members if this would make a difference to them, as they get a representative on the AB due to the Gold membership.
* Local community groups might also want a voice, even if they are not official.
 
=== Voting ===
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'''Motion to do a community consultation on splitting the Advisory Board into two parts: Corporate Members and Local Chapters.'''<br>
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| '''Accepted''', no objections.
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'''Action item''': Mikel to ask for community feedback with the intention on voting during the August meeting.
 
{| style="color: grey; background-color: #d3d3d3;
<span style="font-size:88%"> '''Topics''': [[#Adopting_the_hiring_framework| Hiring framework]] | [[#Proposal_to_hire_a_senior_site_reliability_engineer| SRE hiring]] | [[#Funding_of_projects_used_in_core_infrastructure_.28Nominatim.2C_osm2pgsql.2C_Potlatch.2C_iD.29| Funding core infra. projects]] | [[#Mostly_inactive_state_of_Communication_Working_Group| CWG]] | [[#Advisory_Board_split| AB split]] | [[#Trademark_subcommittee| TM subcommittee]] | [[#Community_survey_before_the_end_of_the_year| Survey]] | [[#Argentina_feedback_discussion| Argentina LC appl.]] | [[#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| AB update]] | '''AOB''': [[#DeepL| DeepL]] | '''Guests''': [[#Comment_on_Splitting_the_Advisory_Board| Comment on AB split]] | [[#Thanks| Thanks]]</span>
 
== Trademark subcommittee ==
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Rory volunteered to succeed Heather and be the board representative on the Trademark subcommittee.
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{| style="color: grey; background-color: #d3d3d3;
<span style="font-size:88%"> '''Topics''': [[#Adopting_the_hiring_framework| Hiring framework]] | [[#Proposal_to_hire_a_senior_site_reliability_engineer| SRE hiring]] | [[#Funding_of_projects_used_in_core_infrastructure_.28Nominatim.2C_osm2pgsql.2C_Potlatch.2C_iD.29| Funding core infra. projects]] | [[#Mostly_inactive_state_of_Communication_Working_Group| CWG]] | [[#Advisory_Board_split| AB split]] | [[#Trademark_subcommittee| TM subcommittee]] | [[#Community_survey_before_the_end_of_the_year| Survey]] | [[#Argentina_feedback_discussion| Argentina LC appl.]] | [[#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| AB update]] | '''AOB''': [[#DeepL| DeepL]] | '''Guests''': [[#Comment_on_Splitting_the_Advisory_Board| Comment on AB split]] | [[#Thanks| Thanks]]</span>
 
== Community survey before the end of the year ==
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Points mentioned during introduction
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* Past surveys informed the board about ideas in the community.
* New information from surveys.
** Africa: use of mailing lists.
* Half a dataset from previous survey still needs to be analysed.
 
<u>Suggestions</u>
* Next survey: limit the amount of data and do more multiple choice questions.
* Time it together with OSMF updates.
* "Ask the board anything" sessions.
* Iterations of survey and to be voted by the board before it goes out.
 
Allan offered to help on survey.
 
{| style="color: grey; background-color: #d3d3d3;
<span style="font-size:88%"> '''Topics''': [[#Adopting_the_hiring_framework| Hiring framework]] | [[#Proposal_to_hire_a_senior_site_reliability_engineer| SRE hiring]] | [[#Funding_of_projects_used_in_core_infrastructure_.28Nominatim.2C_osm2pgsql.2C_Potlatch.2C_iD.29| Funding core infra. projects]] | [[#Mostly_inactive_state_of_Communication_Working_Group| CWG]] | [[#Advisory_Board_split| AB split]] | [[#Trademark_subcommittee| TM subcommittee]] | [[#Community_survey_before_the_end_of_the_year| Survey]] | [[#Argentina_feedback_discussion| Argentina LC appl.]] | [[#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| AB update]] | '''AOB''': [[#DeepL| DeepL]] | '''Guests''': [[#Comment_on_Splitting_the_Advisory_Board| Comment on AB split]] | [[#Thanks| Thanks]]</span>
 
== Argentina feedback discussion ==
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|''[http://www.geolibres.org.ar/ Asociación Civil Geolibres] has [https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters/Applications/Argentina applied] to become the OSMF [[Local_Chapters| Local Chapter]] (LC) for Argentina. ''
 
* ''[https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ar/2020-May/001734.html Local consultation (OSM-talk-ar)] and [https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2020-May/006786.html Membership consultation (osmf-talk)] on the application.'' <br>
* ''[https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2020-May/006859.html Response] on the issues raised.''<br>
''Joost had calls with Geolibres.''
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Points mentioned during introduction
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* Main issue: not easy to join the organisation (by design).
* Their model is similar to the Belgium one.
* Geolibres: does the "boring work" (structural support) and the "fun work" is done by working groups, one of which is OpenStreetMap Argentina (no formal structure).
* On joining
** People who want to be a Geolibres voting member need another member seconding their application and approval by the board.
** Only once there was an application which didn't get seconded, because the form was not properly filled. After it got fixed, they were accepted.
* Not the typical way of how things are done in Argentina.
 
Discussion about options, including
* Accept Local Chapter application as is, with the new [[Local_Chapters/Template_agreement|Local Chapter Agreement]].
* Accept Local Chapter application as is, with the [https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Local_Chapters/Template_agreement&oldid=4861 old version of the Local Chapter Agreement]. ([https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Local_Chapters%2FTemplate_agreement&type=revision&diff=7391&oldid=4861 Diff])
* Have amendments to the Local Chapter Agreement,
** so that they report about new membership applications.
** if the informal group becomes formal, then the LC status automatically shifts to them.
** specifying that open membership is needed.
* Addition of a clause in their bylaws so that any Geolibres new member will be automatically approved by their board barring justification.
 
Other points mentioned during discussion
* Not good to set precedent for letting go of the openness of the membership.
* Ratio of Geolibres voting members to informal OSM group in Argentina: around (15-20) / 200
* Amendments to LC agreement could be specific to Argentina.
* Concern over hypothetical case where the organisation discriminates against a minority which is also disliked by the general OSMF membership. In this case we might not be able to enforce open membership, because they could appeal.
 
=== Decision===
Do a [[Board_Rules_of_Order#7._Circular_Resolutions|circular]], specifying change to the [[Local_Chapters/Template_agreement|Local Chapter agreement]] for Argentina, so that: <br>
 
8.2. The Chapter is required to inform the Foundation of any planned or actual change in the by-laws, non-profit legal status, or other changes of the Chapter that might affect the Foundation or the continued existence or effectiveness of this agreement.
 
Reads as:<br>
8.2. The Chapter is required to inform the Foundation of any planned or actual change in the by-laws, non-profit legal status, '''membership applications''' or other changes of the Chapter that might affect the Foundation or the continued existence or effectiveness of this agreement.
 
{| style="color: grey; background-color: #d3d3d3;
<span style="font-size:88%"> '''Topics''': [[#Adopting_the_hiring_framework| Hiring framework]] | [[#Proposal_to_hire_a_senior_site_reliability_engineer| SRE hiring]] | [[#Funding_of_projects_used_in_core_infrastructure_.28Nominatim.2C_osm2pgsql.2C_Potlatch.2C_iD.29| Funding core infra. projects]] | [[#Mostly_inactive_state_of_Communication_Working_Group| CWG]] | [[#Advisory_Board_split| AB split]] | [[#Trademark_subcommittee| TM subcommittee]] | [[#Community_survey_before_the_end_of_the_year| Survey]] | [[#Argentina_feedback_discussion| Argentina LC appl.]] | [[#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| AB update]] | '''AOB''': [[#DeepL| DeepL]] | '''Guests''': [[#Comment_on_Splitting_the_Advisory_Board| Comment on AB split]] | [[#Thanks| Thanks]]</span>
 
== Advisory Board - monthly update ==
''(single page displaying all the monthly updates that are linked below)''
<br> 2020 [[Board/Minutes/2020-01#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Jan]], [[Board/Minutes/2020-02#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Feb]], [[Board/Minutes/2020-05#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update|May]], [[Board/Minutes/2020-06#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update|Jun]] <br> 2019 [[Board/Minutes/2019-01-17#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Jan]], [[Board/Minutes/2019-03-20#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Mar]], [[Board/Minutes/2019-06-19#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Jun]], [[Board/Minutes/2019-07-17#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Jul]], [[Board/Minutes/2019-08#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Aug]], [[Board/Minutes/2019-10-16#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Oct]]''<br>
''2018 [[Board/Minutes/2018-01-25#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Jan]], [[Board/Minutes/2018-02-15#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Feb]], [[Board/Minutes/2018-03-15#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Mar]], [[Board/Minutes/2018-04-19#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Apr]], [[Board/Minutes/2018-05-24#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| May]], [[Board/Minutes/2018-06-21#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Jun]], [[Board/Minutes/2018-07-19#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Jul]], [[Board/Minutes/2018-08-16#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Aug]], [[Board/Minutes/2018-09-20#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Sep]], [[Board/Minutes/2018-10-18#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Oct]], [[Board/Minutes/2018-12-20#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| Dec]]''<br>
''2017 [[Board/Minutes/2017-01-17#Setting_up_the_Advisory_Board| Jan]], [[Board/Minutes/2017-02-21#Advisory_Board_-_Update| Feb]], [[Board/Minutes/2017-03-21#Advisory_Board| Mar]], [[Board/Minutes/2017-04-18#Advisory_Board_.28Update.29| Apr]], [https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/06/27/summary-of-boards-face-to-face-meeting/ May] (F2F), [[Board/Minutes/2017-10-26#Advisory_Board_on-boarding| Oct]] ''
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* Meeting with [[Advisory_Board| Advisory Board]] (AB) Corporate Members on attribution - [[Advisory_Board/Minutes/2020-06-22| Minutes]].
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* Email from Chairperson to Corporate Members of the Advisory Board to have another meeting on attribution.
* Rob Nickerson (UK LC) emailed the AB regarding a virtual meeting on new UK open data and towards mapping more UK addresses.
* Email by Rory McCann to AB representatives about donating ODbL legal advice to the OSMF board/Foundation. No responses.
 
{| style="color: grey; background-color: #d3d3d3;
<span style="font-size:88%"> '''Topics''': [[#Adopting_the_hiring_framework| Hiring framework]] | [[#Proposal_to_hire_a_senior_site_reliability_engineer| SRE hiring]] | [[#Funding_of_projects_used_in_core_infrastructure_.28Nominatim.2C_osm2pgsql.2C_Potlatch.2C_iD.29| Funding core infra. projects]] | [[#Mostly_inactive_state_of_Communication_Working_Group| CWG]] | [[#Advisory_Board_split| AB split]] | [[#Trademark_subcommittee| TM subcommittee]] | [[#Community_survey_before_the_end_of_the_year| Survey]] | [[#Argentina_feedback_discussion| Argentina LC appl.]] | [[#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| AB update]] | '''AOB''': [[#DeepL| DeepL]] | '''Guests''': [[#Comment_on_Splitting_the_Advisory_Board| Comment on AB split]] | [[#Thanks| Thanks]]</span>
 
== Any other business ==
=== DeepL ===
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''Background: We got a licence for DeepL's API. Acces is currently provided to [weeklyosm.eu/ weeklyOSM] and to [[Communication_Working_Group|CWG]].''
 
Received first invoice for EUR 8.17
 
{| style="color: grey; background-color: #d3d3d3;
<span style="font-size:88%"> '''Topics''': [[#Adopting_the_hiring_framework| Hiring framework]] | [[#Proposal_to_hire_a_senior_site_reliability_engineer| SRE hiring]] | [[#Funding_of_projects_used_in_core_infrastructure_.28Nominatim.2C_osm2pgsql.2C_Potlatch.2C_iD.29| Funding core infra. projects]] | [[#Mostly_inactive_state_of_Communication_Working_Group| CWG]] | [[#Advisory_Board_split| AB split]] | [[#Trademark_subcommittee| TM subcommittee]] | [[#Community_survey_before_the_end_of_the_year| Survey]] | [[#Argentina_feedback_discussion| Argentina LC appl.]] | [[#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| AB update]] | '''AOB''': [[#DeepL| DeepL]] | '''Guests''': [[#Comment_on_Splitting_the_Advisory_Board| Comment on AB split]] | [[#Thanks| Thanks]]</span>
 
== Guest comments or questions ==
=== Comment on Splitting the Advisory Board ===
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Clifford Snow ''(guest)'' commented that the board needs to ask whether it is making good use of the Advisory Board.
 
Comments:
* We know we don't and that's the reason we want to split it.
* We are also splitting it to have more communications with the [[Local_Chapters| Local Chapters]] (LCs).
* Totally different interests of Corporate Members and the LCs.
* Concern that some part of ecosystem might "whisper to the board's ear", so the AB needs to be as open as possible.
 
=== Thanks ===
 
The board was thanked by sadless74 ''(guest).''
 
''Meeting adjourned 86' after start.''
 
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<span style="font-size:88%"> '''Topics''': [[#Adopting_the_hiring_framework| Hiring framework]] | [[#Proposal_to_hire_a_senior_site_reliability_engineer| SRE hiring]] | [[#Funding_of_projects_used_in_core_infrastructure_.28Nominatim.2C_osm2pgsql.2C_Potlatch.2C_iD.29| Funding core infra. projects]] | [[#Mostly_inactive_state_of_Communication_Working_Group| CWG]] | [[#Advisory_Board_split| AB split]] | [[#Trademark_subcommittee| TM subcommittee]] | [[#Community_survey_before_the_end_of_the_year| Survey]] | [[#Argentina_feedback_discussion| Argentina LC appl.]] | [[#Advisory_Board_-_monthly_update| AB update]] | '''AOB''': [[#DeepL| DeepL]] | '''Guests''': [[#Comment_on_Splitting_the_Advisory_Board| Comment on AB split]] | [[#Thanks| Thanks]]</span>
 
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